Comment of the Week – 11.9.12

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What a week!

We wish Nutmeg a quick and relatively pain-free experience in the hospital today as she finally gets that ovarian cyst removed. Onward and upward, sister! As for racing, all of us here in Saltyland have wrapped up our fall goal races. Some of us now turn our attention to our respective Turkey Trots and begin planning out our next moves. And some of us (oh! that’s me!) are anxiously awaiting the birth of their third child, which should happen any time in the next 4 weeks. Man, these kids are worse than the cable guy!

And yes, it’s time for me to get to the reason we’re all here. Who is our illustrious winner this week?

Camille! Camille posted this gem on Pepper’s Equal Pay post:

Just because there’s less women racing doesn’t mean they should be paid less! I did a statistical comparison of women’s and men’s marathon times.

Even looking at the past 4 years, there’s still a discrepancy in the percentage of men vs. women (~58% vs. 42%)– both genders are growing at the same rate (~number of marathoners is growing), which means the gap difference between men’s and women’s marathon times is staying the same and NOT changing.

If I ever see a discrepancy between men’s and women’s pay (or lack-there-of), I’m going to call the race out. Every woman needs to have the brass balls AND intelligence to do this cause it’s not right! A lot of races base pay/bonuses on times, but what statistics are they using (if at all)? The time difference/or percent difference between men’s and women’s world records? I did the statistics using raw data, and there is NOT a linear difference going down the performance lists. Canada is probably the most myopic on this, jipping the women (whether regular marathons or with Olympic qualifying times).

Sometimes a women’s course record may be an anomaly. For example, Gate River used to base their gender equalizer on their course record difference (with Deena holding the women’s course record of 47+ min., which no other woman has gotten close to). When the men kept winning the bonus year-after-year… they said “Wait a minute, maybe Deena’s time is an outlier, and we should base the equalizer on an AVERAGE difference between men’s and women’s winners.” On the other hand, Twin Cities 10 miler this year decided to give the women less head start, ‘because a few Olympian women showed up’ (not based on any fair, real-life statistics)… and the men’s winner won the bonus. Anyways, the point of all this is– races should use real data/statistics over many years, not using course records or some theoretical, arbitrary, or linear time difference for deciding bonuses or overall pay.

We love this comment because Camille not only encourages her running sisters to rise up to demand equal treatment, but gives some great science-based arguments to back us all up!

When Camille isn’t posting awesome comments, she’s busy working on her own blog. Oh, and working to better her 2:37:14 marathon PR. Yes, Camille, is Camille Herron who Pepper interviewed a couple of months ago. She’s currently building back up after fracturing her foot and is targeting the world record for the fastest marathon by a woman in a super hero costume next weekend! (For the record, she chose spidey.) Good luck Camille!

Salty Running boss and mother of 3 little ones with PRs of 3:10:15 (26.2), 1:25:59 (13.1) and 18:15 (5k). I love to write about running culture, mental training, and fitting in a serious running habit with the rest of a busy life.

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